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Post by Alice on Aug 7, 2014 8:54:00 GMT
So what's everyone's opinion on this 50 Shades of Grey hate? Are you for it or against it?
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Post by mitsuki0tennyo on Aug 19, 2014 21:38:32 GMT
I've never gotten the hype around the Fifty Shades trilogy, then again I have that with most book related hypes. It's not the best erotic novel with bdsm elements that I've ever read, elements which are terribly unrealistic on the side note, nor is it most well written I've ever read. Also Anastasia "Ana" Steele and Christian Grey remind me far to much of Isabella "Bella" Swan and Edward Cullen. But it's not a terrible read even if I've read far better books and stories.
I do like E. L. James James initially wrote fanfiction in her case Twilight fanfiction that eventually developed into Fifty Shades of Grey. Also I'm curious about the movie, I wonder how far will they go in the film. I mean the sex scenes are pretty graphic in book.
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Post by Alice on Aug 20, 2014 3:42:01 GMT
You. I like you. And you made your opinion so easy to respect. Yes, 50 Shades isn't the best book, but it wasn't a terrible read.
Honestly, it was the best erotica book I've ever read. And while I agree that Ana and Christian reminded me of Bella and Edward like they do you, they honestly reminded me of BETTER versions of Bella and Edward.
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Post by Winterblume on Aug 20, 2014 11:20:30 GMT
you know, I was thinking about this because I've seen some posts on tumblr. I only stumbled about the book as we talked about it in the gutter city forum. I don't like the story. I don't get anything out of the book. so meh.
I saw all this discussion going on how the book gives a bad example for impressionable young girls. how it glorifies an abusive relationship and has nothing to do with real bdsm etc. I actually agree with that part (that it's showing an abusive relationship and presenting it as something okay). But to be honest, I really doubt that a lot of girls will now flock to the bdsm community with wrong ideas in their heads, or fall prey to abusive partners because of the book. I think there's a huge difference in reading about a sexual fantasy and actually living it. I mean I read a lot of erotica stories that were quite hot, but for most I would never go and act them out.
so, yeah, I can understand how people might hate on 50 shades. I mean, if you read something and didn't like it, it's completely okay to rant about it. What I don't understand, though, is making this book out to be such a dangerous manual on how to get into an abusive relationship. I see where this concern might come from, but I just doubt the book will manage to shift our perception of what is a healthy relationship into something negative.
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Post by mitsuki0tennyo on Aug 20, 2014 12:33:11 GMT
Yay, figured out the quote thingie works. "Happy dance" You. I like you. And you made your opinion so easy to respect. Yes, 50 Shades isn't the best book, but it wasn't a terrible read. Honestly, it was the best erotica book I've ever read. And while I agree that Ana and Christian reminded me of Bella and Edward like they do you, they honestly reminded me of BETTER versions of Bella and Edward. Personally I prefer Diary of a Submissive and it's sequel No Ordinary Love Story by Sophie Morgan to the Fifty Shades trilogy, I like the fact it's memoir and feels more real to me. I admit I like Christian more Edward but part that is because always had something against Edward as I grew up watching BtVS and AtS. Not mention I had huge fangirl crushes on Angelus and Spike. you know, I was thinking about this because I've seen some posts on tumblr. I only stumbled about the book as we talked about it in the gutter city forum. I don't like the story. I don't get anything out of the book. so meh. I saw all this discussion going on how the book gives a bad example for impressionable young girls. how it glorifies an abusive relationship and has nothing to do with real bdsm etc. I actually agree with that part (that it's showing an abusive relationship and presenting it as something okay). But to be honest, I really doubt that a lot of girls will now flock to the bdsm community with wrong ideas in their heads, or fall prey to abusive partners because of the book. I think there's a huge difference in reading about a sexual fantasy and actually living it. I mean I read a lot of erotica stories that were quite hot, but for most I would never go and act them out. so, yeah, I can understand how people might hate on 50 shades. I mean, if you read something and didn't like it, it's completely okay to rant about it. What I don't understand, though, is making this book out to be such a dangerous manual on how to get into an abusive relationship. I see where this concern might come from, but I just doubt the book will manage to shift our perception of what is a healthy relationship into something negative. While do not agree that fifty shades is a manual of abusive relationship, I do think it shows signs of unhealthy one for both Ana and Christian. Nor do I think it will influnce women and girls more then other books and novels have done. I don't believe readers of Anita Blake have started their own harem of male lovers?
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Post by Alice on Aug 20, 2014 18:28:44 GMT
Personally, as my opinion, while I understand that there's always going to be that group of people who hate and look too far into the ideas of a popular book or movie, after reading the books so many times, I've come to interpret that Ana didn't really have much in her life, didn't get to do much because she was always this shy, sad girl. But here comes Christian, who shows her all the opened doors for her and even shows her what she both wants and doesn't want. No she doesn't exactly like the whole BDSM thing, but Christian loves her so much he bends for her and allows vanilla sex to happen because let's face it, those two bunnies have cray cray hormones. I remember how people are complaining about rape in the story. There was never rape. She says no when she wants to say now and Christian STOPS. She doesn't use the safe word much because she's testing herself and when she does use the safe word I know that she knows it's needed to be used. Christian is respectable. And the first time I read the series, I honestly didn't see any resemblance to Twilight.
I just find it funny because with Harry Potter, I remember people going on about how it didn't have that good of a solid plot, was too surreal for a children's book, and even hated on the movies. Just like with the Percy Jackson movies. Which is understandable.
With Twilight, people complained about sparkling vampires and a depressive couple (well, everyone has different views of Vampires, people need to get over that and let's face it, not every romance books has to be about bubbly people falling in love right?).
And with the Hunger Games people ranted on about how boring the books were and how worse the movies were. A lot of people even complained about the second movie (mostly people who didn't read the books, but their loss I suppose).
And there's a lot of hate for Pretty Little Liars right now, calling it the classic White Girl show which every stuck up tween is expected to like. I mean, I didn't like the books much, but I'm going strong with the show. I hate mysteries to be honest, but this series is the only exception. I'm surprised there isn't much hate about the whole teacher/student relationship.
But I digress.
I honestly tried out Sylvia Day's Bared to You trilogy and wasn't impressed. It felt like Day was just trying to write a better version of 50 Shades of Grey and while it was better written, it didn't peak my interest enough to go on to the second book.
Elle, I think i'll give Diaries of a Submissive a try if you say it like that. Adding it to my to-read list as I type this!
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Post by mitsuki0tennyo on Aug 20, 2014 20:29:11 GMT
Sylvia Day... I read several of her books and can say why I thought Bared to You was good read, but like with 50 Shades it was not a great read, each book after took a turn for the worse. Starting with Reflected in You, each book got worse and worse.
With 50 Shades, I'm of opinion that the second book was best book in the trilogy.
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Post by Alice on Aug 20, 2014 21:37:51 GMT
So I'm not the best in that part! I honestly felt the plot and character development was best in the second book.
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Post by mitsuki0tennyo on Aug 20, 2014 21:51:32 GMT
So I'm not the best in that part! I honestly felt the plot and character development was best in the second book. Are you talking about Sylvia Day or 50 Shades?
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Post by Alice on Aug 21, 2014 0:28:03 GMT
50 Shades because I didn't even make it to the second book of the Bared to You series.
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Post by mitsuki0tennyo on Aug 21, 2014 7:36:19 GMT
50 Shades because I didn't even make it to the second book of the Bared to You series. Then you didn't miss anything, I sometimes wish could remove several of Day's book out of my memory And go 50 shades darker
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Post by Alice on Aug 21, 2014 18:30:41 GMT
Yassss
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